Yadein Bahut Badhtameez hote hain ?!

Yadein Bahut Badhtameez hote hain?! HI all I just wanted to share the transcript of a conversation my friend amd myself had the other day and he has been kind enought to allow me to blog.  This was in response to my status in Gtalk " Yadeein bahut Badhtameez hote hain".  He is all for blogging it, as it may benefit who wants to be provoked into thoughts - which I found quite apt for this blog - thoughts sane and inane....  I would welcome any discussion on this subject and would be only too glad if it triggers deeper waves of thoughts in you.  Happy reading.  Just to give a brief intro of Anwar, he was my colleague during my days in the Port of Singapore Authority in Aden Container Terminal (Aden, Republic of Yemen).  {{Ramesh/Piyush - I remember, you had given me the first stamp on Aden, Republic of Yemen, when philately was the hobby..}} Sorry if the alignment is a little off, try as I might, could not set it right.... ------- Anwar: yadein bahut badhtamis hote hain? what it mean?? me: well, it means memories are somewhat uncouth or lack a sense of discipline.... Anwar: literal meaning is ok but what you actually meant to say? me: what i tried saying is - that memories are precious, but they keep popping up in the most unimaginable of times. example you could be working busy on your computer, and seem to cracking a solution, when suddenly a tune pops up; you later realise this tune - is very dear to you an dthere are memories associated with it; so on.. and soon you enter into a reminishing state of mind, one thought leading to the other Anwar: i read a book named " Thalamai Seyalagham " meaning Executive Office. Written by a famous writer " Sujatha " His original name is i suppose srinivasan me: ok Anwar: srinivasan rangarajan he was actually Ex- BEL General Manager me: ok, Anwar: This book called EXECUTIVE OFFICE is about our brain] how it function etc etc in a conversational prose me: ok Anwar: the book explains that our memories are only electrical impulses by neurons which is controlled by external senses mostly me: ok Anwar: but, actual memory storage is similar to array of elctrical pulses stored in chemical substances he exactly says the same thing as you say. me: wow Anwar: memories are so complexly arranged that one activity triggers so many me: yes, it is amazing Anwar: electrical pulses which brings forward the older sequences back me: in a millionth of a second, you process so many information and take actions.... sometimes, when we react - if you catch yourself, you will understand what i mean Anwar: why a finance guy is so immersed in a random thinking like this??? I am asking abt u? me: why finance guys not supposed to think like this... Anwar: u dont question a question. pls answer it me: jokes apart - man is a thinking being and i think i was always a random thinker i was always amazed at myself and my thought processes - and one of my hobbies to watch them Anwar: when we were togather, you never talked to me like this. you speech is mostly towards the actions of PSA staff specially abt the GM. I mean grudges.... me: in the observation mode you learn a lot of things and the construct of the mind, and hwo they function yeah - true Anwar: i mean your way of thinking was not beyond the daily routines but now you have thrown open to a whole new realm of thinking me: but it is really strange we never discussed this at length but i dont think we spent quality time, we always were in a hurry, except for the few get togethers i was always a thinking person and would be always lost in thoughts another pastime was and is - Anwar: yes. true. we had some good chat , when a feloow RAMCO systems came to our gang for a brief period of time me: ok maybe not wanting to be secretive, but it can be a little embarassing.. Anwar: hmmm me: but one of my pastime is observing people and especially when they act or react, i try to establish what leads them to such behaviour believe, it revolves to a limited set of values - and it tells you where those thoughts arise from and it tells you - that so embedded is our automatic system, that we seldom try to unravel our thoughts if we did, we can really become very alert and very very very spiritual Anwar: gotchaa me: for example Anwar: you are leading again to a spiritual path me: if you observe two people discussign or Anwar: will be known as some XYZ--anada swamighal in future...... me: man is a spiritual being, the very purpose of life is spiritual but we have become 'bisheeee" in the material aspect, trying to accumulate and justify that with those embedded automatic responses, rather than go deeper no, i do not fancy that. if i had any great wish - it is this to awaken the thoughts and the spirituality in all those people who come my way we should not waste this golden opportunity of human life chasing non value add goals Anwar: gr8. really, you are the only person whom I have such kind of talk me: you start thinking and relating to ppl and try to spread the good word Anwar: hmm yes me: remember one thing anwar - HE is beyond our Religions Religions are just one of the institutions set up to pave the way to HIM Anwar: true me: but invariably people get lost in practices and rituals and forget spirituality we shoudl respect tradition and convention this world is millions of years old and so many millions of beings have lived adn gond gone so there is really nothing new we can possibly discover or add Anwar: yes me: nature is so benign - it takes care of us anyway, Anwar: yes me: HE is so tolerant - that he does not reject us, though we are so deceptive and every escaping from the fact The major difference between Islam and Sanatan Dharma (yes, this is the original name, Hinduism was coined by outsiders) is Islam is a very practical religiion with straightforward rules and encompassing all It lays out simple processes to lead people the right way that is it Sanatan Dharma is also a way of life It also prescribes a set of rules encompassing all and lays out the processes and steps to lead people the right way that is it Anwar: very interesting me: THere are philosophical differences Anwar: raghs gr8 me: Which is at an advanced stage of spirituality Anwar: i feel like sometime we got to meet up and discuss me: we are all still loitering in the periphery and none of such have attained such sagacity and those who attain m aturity are not to be seen in this material world, for they reject this and disappear from our purview the day you and me also reject and embrace spirituality in toto, we will find their company sure - i am all for it Anwar: you mean in after life? me: but unfortunately both religions are despised and people without any qualification pass adverse remarks not really even in this life have you read the book " The monk who sold his ferrari" by Robin Sharma Anwar: no. but heard of it me: or have you read the book "Alchemist" please spare time Anwar: sure will do it me: During my formative years, I have gone through those Anwar: alchemist authored by who?? me: nowadays, I have no time for any such books, as google it out, do not remember immdly nowadays, i do not have enough time to even go through spiritual scriptures i am deep into spiritual studies and let me tell Anwar: ok me: it is amazing all that we need to know, all the knowledge of the world, etc are contained there it explains the subtleties of life, purpose, path, what we should do, etc